The meme has been liked nearly 9,000 times and shared 2,400 times as of Monday. In reaction to Mr Trump’s repost, journalist Aaron Rupar sarcastically wrote on Twitter: “rubbing my last 2 brain cells together as I try to remember who ran the government on January 6.”
The former president shared the meme despite a House committee that investigated January 6 declaring Mr Trump the “central cause” of the day’s events. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the House panel wrote in its final report.
I mean, technically, yeah… if by “the Government” you mean “the President”.
From tweeting on December 19th: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there! Will be wild!”
To the actual speech that day demanding they take back the government and that he would march with them…
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial
“Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.”
or:
“And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
ending with:
"We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."
So… Trump lured everyone there 1/2 a month ahead of time, gave a speech telling everyone that you have to be strong and fight or you won’t have a country anymore, then turned everyone loose on Congress…
“bUt It WaS ThE GOveRnMenT!!”
But, can anyone ever really prove that Trump was the president?
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Yeah! Was he Donald Trump – the person – president? Or was it “Donald Trump” the legal entity? Is his name capitalized on the documents? Was his presidency valid under maritime law?
That’d explain why he’s so into birth/berth certificates. Then there’s this photo:
Gold fringes!
Gold fringes on the flag of the country “Donald Trump” was president of? Damn it! We’ve been bamboozled! We aren’t even living in the real United States! We were the sheeple all along, just like they were trying to tell us!
His name is an anagram for “L pond mud rat”. That park is only about 2 hours from D.C., maybe there’s a clue to be uncovered there. Going to need some more yarn and pushpins for my bulletin board to put it all together and it could just be an old rant dump.
I believe a lot of them write their names differently as the legal entity, like: ©Donald Trump™
I didn’t expect to see sovereign citizen stuff on this post!
The most generous interpretation I can think of is that he was talking about the “deep state”, some sort of hidden conspiracy of government workers working against him… by getting Trump himself to support this massive rally that everyone knew was going to turn violent and getting him to use incendiary language that would get people riled up, then also getting him to delay calling in help for as long as possible and even going so far as to get his Secret Service agents to refuse to drive him back to the rioters after he wanted to go back. Either this deep state is super nefarious and tricky… or Trump is just easily manipulated.
It’s called projecting. Everything he’s ever said, done, and/or screwed up, he tries to blame others.
His supporters need to wake up and quit drinking the orange juice.
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Damn. 😂
Personally I think it’s just the usual incoherent right-wing worldview. Their concept of “the government” somehow doesn’t include the president, the military, or law enforcement.
It only doesn’t include the president when they have an “®” next to their name. Otherwise, we’re currently living under the brutally totalitarian, yet bumbling and senile, dictatorship of the Biden regime.
edit: goddamnit, lemmy updated it to a circle R registration mark, but you know what I mean.
You’re correct of course. How could I have forgotten?
Trump supporters and media have been claiming undercover instigators from the FBI (I suppose the “deep state”) were planted in the crowd to egg them into violence and law-breaking.
The headline should read “TRUMP ADMITS GUILT.”
The headline should read “TRUMP ADMITS GUILT FOR ANOTHER CRIME.”
Is it confusing when he is honest or what? I don’t get it. Even a broken clock can be right twice per day.
Trump and other republicans in government power staged an attempted coups on Jan 6. It’s not a conspiracy theory or anything, I didn’t even realize this was debated, it’s literally what happened.
Well you know how republicans deal with indisputable proven facts, they ignore them and make up their own story on what really happened.
He probably just got confused. You know like how old people sometimes get. Jokes aside this makes most sense to me.
Right, but it wasn’t to “cover up a stolen election” it was to try and steal an election Trump lost.
It’s “debated” (and I use that term very loosely) because the current US Fascist Republican party and its voter base need to keep gaslighting the general public about what actually happened on Jan 6.
Like, any rational person knows that Jan 6 was obviously an insurrection attempt, which I like to think is the majority of the US - but apparently there’s a very vocal sect of citizens who would be pretty okay with a fascist state so long as it’s branded with a big red R.
According to the article, the meme said "January 6 will go down in history as the day the government staged a riot to cover up the fact that they certified a fraudulent election.”, which is pretty comfusing if you try to look at it logically.
But of course, within Trump’s fantasy world he built, it makes somewhat sense because of course it’s actually “the deep state” that is behind everything…
The meme said that it was a government staged riot and that the government also knew that the election was fraudulent. Obviously, neither are true.
Trump is trying to claim that the government somehow staged 1/6 like the crowd wasn’t really Trump supporters whipped up into a frenzy by him and set loose on the Capitol. Instead, it was some mixture of deep state FBI agents and antifa who conspired to make it seem like Trump did this.
It’s total garbage and is easily debunked, but Trump doesn’t care about the truth. That explanation would absolve him if any guilt so he’ll cling to that regardless of the facts
Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
Did that come out after or around the 2020 election? I could have sworn I read it around then but I can’t seem to find anything from a few searches, everything is current. My memory may be failing but I could have sworn something similar came out around then, unless it was just people guessing. Not that Trump is overly hard to guess, he said he won the first election by more but there was never anything major after he put people on the ‘illegal votes’ task force.
I saw it when I watched the Jan 6 House Committee hearing on 7-22-2022. I do not know when or how the congressional investigative committee received the video.
Political commentators were predicting it based off his behavior as well. Remember, he still questions the results of the election he won in 2016
Clearly it was Obamas fault
Thanks Obama
There are two wolves inside trump. One wolf is a goddamn idiot. The other wolf is an malignant narcissist. Both are chewing on the rotting carcass of his brain.
Trump hurt himself in confusion.
It’s super effective
came to comment this lol
70 million people with a pulse voted for this guy and made life-size plastic idols of him in his honor. What amazes me is that they’ll do it again. Trump has no loyalty to even his most fanatic worshippers and no coherent plan for America other than cashing out for himself at anyone else’s expense. And he keeps telling everyone as much because he has no filter and uses our two-tiered justice system to keep getting away with it.
What kind of reason besides spite or greed could possibly motivate people to fawn over a blatantly awful man who already threw them under the bus a few times the moment it suited him better?
It owns the libs. They literally don’t give a fuck about anything else.
Meanwhile, I would just like to feel confident that if I had to go to the hospital I could, and it wouldn’t bankrupt me. But I’m getting owned so hard lol Trump MAGA lol
What amazes me is that they’ll do it again.
They’re all living vicariously through his “sticking it to The Man” act. They love him because this is what they think they would do if they were in power. They cheer him getting away with it because it’s exactly how they would write fan fiction about themselves (were they literate).
Thanks Obama!
Obamna
Obama just sat there and let 9/11 happen!
Obama melted steel beams!
Obama was Building 7!
We all sat and let 9/11 happen. Guess we’ll all just turn ourselves in. All 300+ million of us.
I think it’s time we call and treat Trump for what he is; a dangerous cult leader. He leads a group of people who act like a cult, dress like a cult, and quack like a cult. They have their own cult news websites and social media outlets, and their cancer is spreading through republican rank and file. Nothing about it should be legal, it radicalizes innocent people and increases the chance of violent encounters in public spaces.
He most likely doesn’t want to jail.
I wouldn’t want to jail either personally, that’s actually most of the reason why I don’t start insurrections
Same here, many other things I don’t do:
- withhold congress assigned funds to blackmail a foreign country for personal gain
- Steal protective gear from states during a pandemic
- Commit tax fraud (this is the condensed version)
- Rape women
- Rape underage girls
- Try and extort/convince states to change a fair election
- Not illegal usually, but not lie like you’re trying to win a high score with your heartbeats
- Teargas protesters so you can get a photo op in front of a church
Like you need an asterisk now when you tell kids they could grow up to be US President. I know there’s tons more.
I can’t believe you left out
- Steal classified documents and show them to people without security clearances like Kid Rock and the Saudis
Can’t believe I did either, I knew there was something but there is just so much that makes that man an awful human being and a downside to any society he’s allowed to be free in. Like if you sifted out the worst traits a human could have and squeezed 400lbs of it into a 250lb case, you’d end up with that orange douchy turd sandwich.
Admitting to the crime seems like the wrong way to go about that…
He won’t go to jail. At best he’ll be banned from running for president, but that won’t happen. At worst he’ll be president again. Either way, the justice system is in his favor with this judge.
He has three sets of charges coming total for now. “Honorable” Aileen Cannon is just one judge in his pocket for one set of charges. Other judges won’t be bought or threatened into letting him slither away.
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The writers are getting lazy, the character are so Flanderized they barely seem like people, and I can’t say I feel optimistic about the finale.
Yes… Maybe we haven’t come back from our last acid trip, it feel like 3 years ago, but the world has just been so stupid these last 3 years, must be my imagination.
“Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.”
As a fellow fan of syndicated daytime television, I’m sure that Mr. Trump is as familiar as I am with this above quote by Detective Lenny Briscoe, N.Y.P.D. So a re-post from him like this is puzzling to me….
Trump will testify under oath or take the Fifth – he’ll be forced to do one or the other. My guess is that he will “exercise his right against self-incrimination” in all pending and yet-to-be-announced cases against him.
Without any live testimony given by the defendant, prosecutors will be free to present any part of any of Trump’s public statements and social media posts as testimony.
Prosecutors will be free to pick-and-choose whatever public comments they want, to show Trump in whatever light they want to show him in. Trump won’t be able say anything back about it, because he’ll’ve already invoked his constitutional right to not say anything at all.
Public comments (including endorsement by "re-truth"ing like this) are not made under oath, so they’re not legally binding, but they are still things that Trump said out loud and on purpose.
However much they gin up support from his base of voters, they also add to the threat of Trump’s own words being used against him later in a court of law. Used against him in the general election, too, if he somehow manages to make it that far.
Trump is all too familiar with the millions of Americans who love him for what he says, but I don’t think he has any true notion about the millions more American voters who have come to despise him for what he has done. I’m not sure he ever will.
In a trial, the prosecution goes first and presents their full case. Then the defense gets their turn to refute anything presented by the prosecution. Even if he pleads the 5th, his lawyers will do their best to refute any presented earlier by the prosecution.
I agree they’ll do their best, but how? With what? Are they going to try to refute Trump’s crazy tweets with other crazy Trump tweets?
Among the most damning aspects of Trump’s public statements is their lack of consistency – the OP meme we’re discussing is an example. I don’t think this aspect will be refuted by his lawyer demonstrating even more inconsistency.
The only thing Trump has been consistent about on social media is lying about the 2020 election and personally attacking anyone who says anything against him. I don’t see how either of those behaviors are going to help his lawyers refute anything either.
As someone who has served on a jury… for me and everyone else in the room who served with me, legal teams words carried a lot less weight than the words of those who were actually involved in the alleged crime.
And we got all the advice we needed from the judge. There was no compelling reason to listen to the legal nonsense of the two opposing legal teams. We listened go the legal teams of course, but they didn’t have much impact on the verdict.