So, obviously that’s crazy and we’re all here to dunk on this person.
But also, I want everyone to know that Gatorade sells their product as a powder as well. One container of powder makes something like 24 bottles of Gatorade. It’s super cheap, and way more environmentally friendly. Thank you for your attention
I bet the horse one has a quarter of the sugar though.
it says NO SUGARS
Gatorade isn’t actually a good source of electrolytes though.
It’s sugar and pinch of salt.
However! There’s totally good electrolyte powders that are packed with the goods, and they’re not much pricier.
Also, sour patch kids have a weird ingredient in the coating that most electrolyte stuff doesn’t have. Potassiumsomething something, irrc?
If you’re super dehydrated while drinking a fuckload of water, stick some of them under your tongue
but it’s got what plants crave
Also, sour patch kids have a weird ingredient in the coating that most electrolyte stuff doesn’t have. Potassiumsomething something, irrc?
Probably you’re referring to tartaric acid, potassium bitartrate. It’s added to candy to stabilize invert sugars, keeping them from crystallizing. You can buy it in powder form, usually called cream of tartar.
I don’t know what it does for hydration, but I suppose it would help top up potassium levels.
The memory of the medics explaining it to me is a little hazy, due to the heat injury. Something about potassium ion channels?
I’m a mechanic, not a medic, so I haven’t the knowledge base to know what that means, I just recall them saying things like sour patch kids are basically magic, because they do a thing the vast majority of electrolyte stuffs don’t
Any recommendations?
I use nuun tabs. Not exactly cheap considering it’s $7 for 10 tabs. Not exactly environmentally friendly considering the small plastic tubes.
but is there an environmentally worse way to purchase gator-aid?
Purchase a huge swath of wetlands. Start cutting down all the trees and filling in the swampy bits. Once there is a credible threat to the existence of the alligators, start a campaign to save the wilderness and undo the damage. Allow people to donate money by purchasing “Gator-Aid” packages for $100 a shot. Steal the money and run.
Order it delivered, one bottle at a time?
Airmailed via sub orbital rockets.
Everybody is just walking straight past the fact that capitalism has cucked us all badly enough that we’re discussing the merits of drinking livestock products to save a few bucks?
Because just beyond that fact is a big sign labeled “THIS IS A JOKE”
You know several people did actually do and die from the “Tide challenge”…
That was basically because you could die from pretending to do it. The challenge was to eat a laundry pod. That’s really obviously not safe, but biting a laundry pod and spitting it out after pretending to swallow and die for the camera seemed like a reasonable way to freak people out while skipping the dangerous part to a handful of teenagers. The biting step was the real dangerous one, though, as concentrated laundry detergent can corrode tongues and throats and windpipes really quickly, and you’d lose the capacity to decide what to swallow, what to inhale, and what to hold in your mouth and spit out within seconds. This kills the teenager. The news generally reported this as Teenager dies attempting Tide Pod Challenge instead of Teenager dies attempting to fake Tide Pod Challenge, which didn’t tell teenagers it wasn’t safe to pretend to do, but did make pretending to do it seem like a better prank, so overall only made it more tempting.
I’d like to see the science behind this.
Eating some of a laundry pod does not seem like a quick way to die at all. Something that would take hours or even days as your insides are wrecked or your throat swells shut, preceded by plenty of vomiting and other issues should you manage to swallow the stuff. Quickest way to die from a pod would be to choke on it.
IOW, if you didn’t choke to death from the pod, you’re not dying on camera from ingesting some of it.
You’ve got far more faith in people than I do…
Ivermectin.
It is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines
Yep - that was a common talking point for the morons - that’s not descriptive of you though, is it?
The horse paste form? For use as an antiviral?
Thought not.
The horse paste form?
Other than dosing concerns, it’s the same drug. If you needed ivermectin and for some reason you couldn’t get it in pill form from a pharmacy (such as a natural disaster) it’s a workable source. Likewise for things like antibiotics. Just remember that drugs are dosed by weight and different species have different doses by weight so you’re going to have to do some math to convert from horse doses to human doses.
For use as an antiviral?
Yeah, never understood why the weirdos landed on an antiparasitic for their quack antiviral. It gets used in humans pretty often for things like scabies and worms though…
See also:
Everybody is just walking straight past the fact that capitalism has cucked us all badly enough that we’re discussing the merits of drinking livestock products to save a few bucks?
Using horse dewormer topically is a popular home treatment for rosacea because it has the same active ingredient as a prescription cream (Soolantra), but the cream is ~$700/mo.
There are so many frugal “life-hacks” that involve a trip to your local feed store.
Yep - that’d fall squarely into the discussing the merits of drinking livestock products to save a few bucks bucket. Thanks for volunteering to demonstrate my point.
I was agreeing with you and providing another example
…and here I am, sitting in the corner, eating my onion.
That one’s on me - my bad.
Wait, horse dewormer? Ivermectin?
And then Americans will call you a fucking stupid fucking idiot for having the audacity to point it out.
Enjoy your pig slop, America.
I just nab one of these bad boys every few years. Don’t fall for big-electrolyte’s propaganda
Horse paste is good against covid, horse electrolytes are good against hangovers, what else is the horse industry hiding? Oh yeah, apparently horse tranquilizers whip ass too.
What if I want to whip the llama’s ass though?
You’ll need to get WinAmp installed then my friend.
I’ve read somewhere that horse mats made out of rubber are pretty good flooring for home gyms and cheaper than something marketed towards gym use.
If it can take the full weight of a horse standing on it with its small hoofs, then it should have no issues with any weight you might drop on them during lifting.
I hear horse shampoo is amazing and horse joint lotions actually work
Can confirm, horse shampoo is incredible.
I lost real vs troll a long time ago in this thread and I’m pretty ok with it
For horses or for humans?
“Mane 'n Tail” is what you should check out.
That’s the brand I used for years. I’ve since went bald, but my buddy has a full head of hair with a man bun and swears by it.
Yes
They taste good, too.
Speaking of animal shampoo, me and the wife rescued some pups and they had issues…
Too young for flea/tick shampoo, but we found a hippy organic shampoo that just smelled like the best of the fall season. Took care of the fleas/ticks, and we kept it around for general dog bathing for the smell. It was amazing, lol.
This explains why horses have so many horsepower nowadays…
They’re on so much junk they can do the work of eight horses!
Tennessee marchin’ powder
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Poor Boxer worked so hard on the farm, only to end up as meat and glue.
Big Horse is at it again.
I worked at an animal feed plant once upon a time. It was all people-food grade ingredients, but the factory and equipment were not exactly maintained at the level you’d like to hope for your normal packaged food.
That said, I’m pretty sure everyone there had this place on their “shit hits the fan” list as a way to pick up months worth of calories in an emergency.
I can’t speak to animal food, but I know plenty of folks that are too poor for insurance so when they get an infection they take fish amoxicillin. It’s dirt cheap and you don’t need a prescription.
I don’t recommend it because it contributes to the issue with antibiotic resistant bacteria and I believe most people won’t take it right, but I’ve been that poor with an abscessed tooth. So I took it for a week to kill the infection and saved up to have that tooth yanked. Sometimes you’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do to survive.
America sounds more horrific every time I hear about it
There are some pretty awesome things as well, but none of them are related to healthcare or my abscessed tooth.
Very few, if any, of those “awesome” things are in any way unique to the US though.
I think that’s the thing that Americans need to realize.
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Ussually fish antibotics is litterally the human grade stuff but “expired” or didnt meet the strict QC…
The antibiotic resistance thing isn’t the only issue. We have FDA regulations for a reason. You will probably be OK, but those drugs are not meant for human consumption for a reason. I wouldn’t take them unless you literally have no other choice.
This country is so dystopic.
TIL. Thanks!
True fact: a human can survive on nothing but vegan cat food and horse powder.
… For how long?
Rest of their lives
And a guestimate how long that might be.
At least 2 hours
What if I’m underwater?
Plus or minus 2 hours
An acceptable margin of error
The rest of their lives.
…hazel is that you?
Edit: surprised at how many people know hazel lol
do they also need water (or monster)
Brawndo
I knew a guy who only ate things he had sprouted in a Mason he kept behind the seat of his pickup truck.
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The gallon of water probably didn’t hurt.
Glowing skin, our man is clearly radiating something
clearly it’s supposed to be taken in a 1:1 water to horse aid ratio by weight
I mean, horses are mammals that sweat. It probably mostly works fine, but between lower stakes for the manufacturer, different dietary needs between taxonomic Orders, and our Rebel friend’s apparent decision-making, I think we’re pretty close to [email protected] territory. I’m particularly concerned that the copper sulfate and manganese sulfate may not be where you’d like them.
Growing up on a farm, I always told my spouse that if a severe earthquake hit I was going to go to the farm supply store and get two 50 lb bags of “calf mana” to feed our child with (if needed). “Calf mana” is basically powdered baby formula for calfs/colts/sheep/etc.
I’m sure it would be safe to eat (in an emergency). Wouldn’t normally use it, but in a pinch it’s better than starving.
Woah, I just understood why we eat meat: to drain animals of their mana so that we can use our magic powers to make our mystical devices work.
I’m hungry <- boring
I don’t have enough mana <- worth ponderingWizard needs food badly.
You pass out.
pondering
orb pondering epidemic flashbacks
Ain’t nobody who posts on Lemmy that has any mana. We’re the very little gravitas indeed crowd.
Shouldn’t you get the bags before the earthquake hits?
Well, our child is past the stage of using formula. So it’s not an issue (for that) anymore.
The farm store is fairly close, so getting there shouldn’t be an issue (even in an emergency). Spouse is not as concerned about those things as I am (and I’m not real concerned about it either [i.e. I’m not a prep-er]).
You have the perfect level of concern in my opinion. You’re not a preper but you have at least formulated an idea about these things. In an extreme emergency it beats going with your gut which for most people would be just going to the store and trying to get baby formula.
Thanks for the compliment. Exactly what I was thinking.
Didn’t we have a big kerfuffle over humans consuming horse medication years back?
I personally know someone that still brings it up every time anyone mentions anything related to not feeling well. It is very much not in the past.
“Probably have COVID. I’m gonna go take some Ivermectin.”
Words spoken by people who prefer to get their “healthcare” from the same place you can buy pet food, garden tools, and candy by the pound instead of an actual doctor.
I used to do research in a hospital… One of the worst things I ever saw was someone who had taken a horse whatever med and it had literally melted all of his skin. He had no skin, or if he did it very much looked melted. It was horrifying. Stay away from horse meds kids.
which horse med was it, asking for a friend
I don’t remember… This was like 15 years ago
Fun Little Story.
I’m not big on the whole internet thing so I didn’t know about the whole Ivermectin thing until way later.
Around the time that craze was really I was hospitalized for what turned out to be a tropical parasite (strongyloides) which the only place I had gone was deep in the mountains in a cold region so it was a big shocker when the test came back.
They told me I needed Ivermectin and they were just waiting for approval, all the while I’m almost certain I’m dying, agonizing pain, at this point I was throwing up blood.
After a while of “waiting for approval” I couldn’t take it anymore, like 2 weeks had passed and all they were doing was pumping me with morphine, which as a recovering addict I loved in the worst way. So I left the hospital I was at and went to another one. Went into the ER and told them the whole shibang, tropical parasite, I was told I need Ivermectin etc. And the second hospital basically told me to fuck off.
Out of frustration I gave up, I called the first hospital and asked if they got approval and they said they were still waiting and would call me back.
So I went home and basically waited to die, taking basically any opiod I could get my hands on. My neighbor who got me some stuff hung out with me one night and I told her the story, later on she brought me more stuff only this time she had ‘something else’ for me. I didn’t question it, just popped it back, never thought about it again until recently.
I still don’t know what it was but I ended up recovering, the pills were harder to kick but I did it.
I don’t know why the first hospital was so hesitant to give me the medication, if they didn’t have it or were worried about how it would look prescribing it. But fuck that place.
I do wonder if they’re still in there and I’ll just drop dead one day but I’m off medicade now so doctor visits are out of the question.
Nah you are probably fine. If it comes to life or death, you absolutely take any form of the medication you need without worry of FDA approval.
However, on a large scale… there is a reason we have those regulations.
PCP was the OG.
And I’m constantly fighting the urge to break into a gallop.
I headbutted a guy for a carrot the other day. I don’t know what came over me.
“You see, Mrs Simpson, some elephants are just jerks.”
You know this person uses Mane n Tail too.
I know you’re making a joke but mane n tail is safe for human use, it’s got a section for it on the bottle.
Oh I know, they’ve got to complete the horse care collection though.
I’ve got some electrolytes supposed to be taken while doing sport to fill up what you lose by sweating. And that shit does wonders when having a hangover, take one, wait 30 minutes, be absolutely fit again
Pedialyte, my man.
It comes in freezie pops!
Because hangovers are due to dehydration and lack of nutrients… Exactly what the electrolyte drinks take care of
Drink that BEFORE going to bed and you will not even have a hangover. You feel hungover because you are dehydrated. If you hydrate before being dehydrated you will not be dehydrated.
My stuff has caffeine in it, too, that wouldn’t be so helpful for sleeping, but otherwise you are right
A few of the horses I cared for at the barn I used to work at refused eat those electrolytes in their grain, or drink it if I mixed it into their water.
If horses don’t really like it I can’t imagine humans fairing much better.
I get bulk electrolyte powder for my hangovers and it tastes like salty weirdness. That’s probably why every electrolyte drink has flavours and sugar to mask it.
That’s exactly the reason for the over-the-top flavorings. A while back I looked into making sports drinks myself and getting ingredients in bulk, and you’re basically drinking dissolved salt, saltpeter, and Epsom salt.
Yeah Gatorade was literally just a few professor types going “Hey you lose a bunch of salt and water through sweat and sugar through the exercise, maybe the best drink for athletes is something that replaces that?”
