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    Yes because the Russians are so utterly incompetent that they have literally no strategy in winter time aside from standing around like chickens with their fucking heads cut off. How do people buy this shit?

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      I am pretty sure it’s 95% deeply rooted racism and the rest is the result of the ongoing propaganda campaign.

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      They buy it because they have internalized racism, it is simply not possible that these asiatic beasts have prepared for winter.

      The nazis themselves were like this, the diaries of their leaders during the first 2-3 weeks of operation barbarossa show how little they thought of the soviet union at the start.

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    Russians are getting… whatever they get, so they’ll probably freeze

    YES, Russia, fucking RUSSIA, the fucking BIG BEAR, THE FUCKING COUNTRY WHERE THE MOST COLD CITY IS, DOESN’T HAVE EQUIPMENT FOR THE WINTER

    LIKE, they even remember that the war already passed a winter?

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    Why wouldn’t the Russians be prepared? Look at where they live, do they not think Russian soldiers are prepared for fucking winter?

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      Nope. Every winter all Russians die. Every spring saruman makes new Russians out of dirt and coal.

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      Yea think Russia is a tropical climate or something 😅.

      Its just usual armchair general discourse, they think they are big brain because they think about the weather.

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        It just baffles me because isn’t Russia kind of well known for its brutal winters?

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            Or geography, apparently. Either that or after so long denying climate change, they’ve gone too hard in the other direction.

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          Well, it depends where in the country (it’s big), but generally yeah their summers are milder than say western Europe and winters colder, it’s only starting in Ukraine that winters start to get warmer.

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    I wonder what war looks like in their heads. Is it a fps shooter? A HOI campaign perhaps? Do they seriously believe soldiers just charge at each other?

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      In this particular case I’d say FPS or TPS. You can guess HOI foos by their fart-sniffing “strategic analysis”

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        As someone who occasionally plays Advance Wars competitively, anyone who’s played a map with snow knows how much it stops offensives. These people are below a children’s strategy game at this point.

        EDIT: These people don’t even know that Putin will just activate his CO power and make all the Ukranian units lose 2 hp and lose half their movement due to the snow.

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      As low as the bar is, I feel like a HOI campaign is actually a step beyond their strategy at this point.

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    Russians are getting… whatever they get,

    Buddy, Russia is blowing up previously never-exploded Britbong tanks and basically disassembling NATO artillery before it even launches, often simply by having weapons that work.

    The Transatlantic Empire’s most effective weapons have proven, like always, to be terrorism and targeted political assassinations. The U.S. is as paper a fucking tiger now as it was when chairman Mao said it.

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      Don’t forget propaganda powerful enough to make people oblivious to their material conditions

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        Too many folk here in Amerika “know” more about what’s happening in Ukraine than what’s happening in their own damn neighborhoods.

        An addict shoots up. A mugger creates a victim. A cop shoots a black child. A homeless man freezes to death. A drunk beats his wife. Everyone starves and struggles against the tremendous weight of debt. Buildings and streets continue to erode ever further, unmolested by the tyranny of public investment. All within the shadow of billowing Ukrainian and Amerikan flags planted on some “apolitical” petit-bourgeois fucker’s perfectly mowed lawn. 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

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    Ignoring the stupid and outright murderously insane shit in that post…

    Are they not aware that Ukrainian men were also conscripted? Ukraine quite literally locked down the borders and wouldn’t let men out and said “go protect the homeland!”

    I understand the conscripts thing is meant to he demoralizing or whatever like “you don’t even want this war! Give up!” but that fails when your own country is also conscripting and begging for people from around the world to come help fight Russia. This wasn’t exactly kept a secret either, so it’s just weird seeing it used in this way.

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      Fascist blocking squads were quite violent with those they deemed cowards trying to desert…

      At least Russians who were drafted actually have a sane chance of survival…getting “drafted” by Ukronazis is a death sentence…

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    Setting aside the question of winter gear (as comrades have already highlighted it), and even setting aside the murderous masturbatory fantasy of war-as-videogame (what they describe is essentially CoD or Ghost Recon kind of game, with gigachad protagonist having hilarious over the top advantage over poorly programmed NPCs).

    I want to focus a little on the example chosen for comparison - Predator movie. Because it is a very peculiar choice. What do we see in the movie? First we see a team of these stereotypical Hollywood gigachad “operators” tear through a gang of Hollywood “rebels” in an absurdly one-sided tussle. Can’t even call it a skirmish. The yanks have better gear, better physique, better everything, exactly as what the idiot in the image imagines yankee troops to be. And then the alien turns it upside down on them, by having better physique, better tech, etc. And it’s once again not a battle, nor a fight, the alien is just hiding in the trees like a rat to occasionally pop a yank with that absurd gun of his. While invisible. And when Arnie accidentally circumvents the predator’s tech - it screeches in impotent rage and fires blindly into the jungle, because its FPS sim got disturbed. Just as the yanks were firing blindly into the jungle earlier, for the same reason.

    So what’s the point of this rant? Well, I almost want to see those “SOF teams” try to pull their yankee shit, only to discover what “artillery barrage” means and what “peer equipment” means. But of course, useless removed-s like in the op image won’t get the message and will simply continue writing similar masturbatory fanfics.

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      If we consider the Predator movie, at least the first one, to be an allegory for the Vietnam war because it featured jungle warfare and commando bros facing off against an enemy that is virtually invisible, implacable, utterly alien and incomprehensible, and entirely determined to hunt down and kill the invaders (often in torturous ways) while the commando bros are pretty much helpless against the predator as they get picked off one by one…

      Then they’ve kinda missed the entire message underlying the movie.

      If they think “better equipment = we’re like the predator” then they’re failing to grasp the fact that the true terror in the film doesn’t come from better technology but from an enemy which can blend seamlessly into the environment, which could be anywhere at any time, and is completely unstoppable. The technology is just window-dressing because if it were about a regiment of small Vietnamese people armed with AK-47s it wouldn’t be much of a spectacle and it wouldn’t play into macho power fantasies.

      So, if the story is a metaphor about an enemy which is comparatively poorly armed using their skills and the terrain to their advantage, defeating what is assumed to be the best of the best, then why are they using it to brag about having better equipment again?

      Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they?

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        If we consider the Predator movie, at least the first one, to be an allegory for the Vietnam war

        Errr why should we? Because jungle and imaginary yankee toughs? I’m not sold on this analogy. Predator reads more like Wells’ “War of the worlds” - turning the situation upside down on the colonizers. Suddenly they’re the ones being hunted for sport by uncaring invader with absurd levels of technological superiority (while still acting as if it’s fair and square).

        Then they’ve kinda missed the entire message underlying the movie

        Oh this I agree with

        but from an enemy which can blend seamlessly into the environment, which could be anywhere at any time, and is completely unstoppable.

        Nowadays drones fullfil this function

        Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they

        Didn’t nafo already use the “I’m doing my part” bit from the movie, completely serious and missing the satire?

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          Errr why should we? Because jungle and imaginary yankee toughs? I’m not sold on this analogy.

          I mean, your interpretation is as valid as mine. But I think you haven’t done my words justice in your summary of the points that I made to support my interpretation. You’ve either responded before reading my whole comment or you’ve spent too much time on Reddit.

          Predator reads more like Wells’ “War of the worlds” - turning the situation upside down on the colonizers. Suddenly they’re the ones being hunted for sport by uncaring invader with absurd levels of technological superiority (while still acting as if it’s fair and square).

          An analogy is such because it’s not a 1:1 representation and it never will be. If it were meant to be a perfect representation of the Vietnam war then it would be a biopic or a documentary. There’s no inviolable rule that you can’t invert parts of your allegory and clearly this was done to make a Hollywood blockbuster action-scifi film.

          The predator wasn’t a coloniser imo. There’s less in the movie to support the idea that the predator was colonising the jungle than there is for the Vietnam war allegory. A foreigner in a different land doesn’t amount to colonisation.

          I was trying to find the quote from someone who was involved in production who said that if it were a few years earlier then Predator would have been set in Vietnam when I came across this opinion piece which makes a better case for the film being a Vietnam War allegory (while explaining the predator’s high tech) than I did.

          Didn’t nafo already use the “I’m doing my part” bit from the movie, completely serious and missing the satire?

          Maybe I’m blessed because I haven’t been exposed to nearly anything from the NAFO chuds but I’d absolutely believe this from a group of people who are rapidly circling the ideological drain hole that is fascism.

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        The technology in Predator isn’t window dressing really, it’s icing on a cake, because predator is able to defeat the Murican HeroesTM largely because it, so by extension they suggest that the Vietnamese (not having that tech obviously) must had some kind of magic to be able to do it too.

        Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they?

        Already seen it. And not surprising at all, combined with complete amputation of the sense of irony and satire because prerequisite is to take ST movie completely seriously on face level.

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    I can picture it now:

    EUROPEANS

    tired of being cold this winter because the US turned off your gas supply?

    fight in Ukraine where the fire is always on and fresh warming mead flows all night long.

    €3,400/month (minus expenses)

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    alright am I crazy or is this not the exact same thing these people were saying last year as winter was approaching?

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      That’s what’s also confusing me. Like, we’ve already gone through winter of this war so what makes this year different? The Russians survived then and will do the same now so I don’t know what they’re blabbing about.

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    “ill equipped conscripts”, these clowns do not know the difference between reservists and conscripts. Bless those dumb mfs.

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    this has to be fake. are there really people who don’t know the history of armies invading Russia in the winter?

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      I don’t know much about what happened during the Winter War (Soviet Union v. Finland) but people seem to cite it as an example of Russia somehow failing. With Finland now in NATO they seem optimistic that this is going to be Winter War 2 Electric Boogaloo.

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        In the winter war, Russia got more than what they demanded from Finland and they were forced to sign the treaty for neutrality but I guess they joined Hitler’s group soon.

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          Most finnaboos still think Russia (not USSR mind you, they always use Russia) had lost the “winter war”. Muh hwyte deff and all that

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            We have a similar story in India, as you might know our Mughal kings definitely had defeated the Rajput kings and ruled Northern India but after the Hindutva nazification our government approved school book says Rajputs defeated the mighty Mughals and Mughals rewrote the history to suite them.

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              Ah, the classics of nationalist mythology! I think we’re still going through that in capitalist Russia, although there’s the tiny difficulty of coping with Soviet past. Kinda hard to bash the ebil commies while chest thumping about being the first to space, you know?

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                At least you Russians did something in 1925-1980s to feel proud of , we didn’t do anything still out nationalists think we are no.1 . And we constantly bash China for not having “democracy” . Yes a democracy where most of politicians are gang members did murders , rape one way or the other. Your libs are the worst , they would sell their mother for western democracy not much different than Indian libs but at least we have some sense of anti west feelings

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          Thank you for telling me this. The only thing I really knew about the war was this stupid meme I saw years ago:

          Or at least one that was very similar. Just showing the Wikipedia information to essentially state how weak the Big Bad USSR was fighting against Little Baby Cutie Patootie Finland. I literally had to look up “Winter War meme” to find this and the amount of others with a similar sentiment is embarrassing as hell.

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            My aunt went to Finland and she says its common knowledge there that 30% of Finnish men 18-25 died in the Winter War. The USSR offered to trade land to make a buffer zone for Leningrad and Finland said no and they lost that great a percentage of their population as well as losing territory. While Soviet casualties were likely higher being on the offensive, they were proportionately nothing to the Soviets and a major generational trauma for the Finns. But flying Finnish White Death orc shooter 7 billion dead, amirite?