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    Most communists: I believe society should work towards the betterment of all and that workers deserve full rights and benefit of their labor.

    Chuds: “but what about gay people?”

    Most communists: “… They are people and this will be give the same rights and benefits as all other people…?”

    Chuds: " COMMUNISM IS DESTROYING TRADITIONAL FAMILIES"

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      Indeed, they’re already disappearing under capitalism as social norms change. Although, it’s worth noting that social reproduction is tied to material conditions and economic organization. For example, women equally participating in the workforce necessarily upends traditional family structure.

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        yup and women+children were integrated to the workforce as the development of industry started taking off to increase the supply of labor-power and reduce wages. the structure of the family in a given society is the reflection of the development of the society!

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        The “traditional” or nuclear family these conservatives want to protect is itself a recent invention. Before industrialization and capitalism families and communities looked quite different.

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          Right, the culture is a product of the material conditions at a particular point in history. It’s not an abstract thing that exists outside material reality.

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          yup and depends in class too, i can’t imagine a traditional family in the proletariat during the industrial revolution in England for example.

          The 20th century traditional middle class american family was only possible due to the concessions, segregation and imperialism.

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        Yeah if every adult has to work then you need at least three adults per family to keep up with child-rearing and housework without straight-up burning people out.

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    I don’t know why it’s so satisfying to watch braindead conservatives whine 24/7 about muh traditional values from Middle Ages after communism destroyed it all and made LGBT dictatorship as Marx intended.

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    Chuds are like:

    • “traditional family: leave it to beaver depiction that never existed in RL”
    • “sanctity of marriage: everyone should have to marry the way I do or else my marriage feels icky”
    • “christian values: the bible says leave it to beaver is the right family model and everyone should have to marry the way I do and also I should get to control women, anyone who says otherwise is blasphemous and weak and did I mention I want to control women? why don’t I get to do that. what gives.”