• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Well asexuals are widely recognised as queer and hardly anyone who has the faintest political literacy is against them. It’s not like Fox News is going after them like they go after gay and trans people, so when someone is aphobic they’re generally considered absolutely ridiculous by the kinds of people who use Lemmy. And calling Trump asexual would seem to imply that he’s not a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, which he absolutely is. I’m never going to stand for somebody calling Trump asexual.

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      Ok, but how is calling someone a narcissist a defense?

      Are you under the bizarre impression that ‘narcissist’ is a synonym for ‘asexual?’

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        Yeah, it’s based on the Greek character Narcissus, who was hated for being asexual. One of the incels he rejected prayed to Nemesis to make him fall in love with that which he cannot have, so she made him fall in love with his reflection so he’d starve to death. It’s a story about how Greek culture was aphobic. They didn’t understand asexuality and attributed not wanting to fuck anyone to hubris. So if you call someone a narcissist, you’re saying they have an asexuality motivated by pride. Which is honestly aphobic and disgusting nonsense.

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            5 months ago

            Telling people that Trump is neurodivergent and his evil is caused by being disabled is also fucked up. It simultaneously garners sympathy for a fascist and villifies disabled people.

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              And now you’re just being dishonest. He was called a narcissist, not someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

              It’s not a crime to say you were wrong, you know.

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                You’re the one who brought up NPD. If it’s not a slur against disabled people it’s a slur against asexuals. You’re completely ignoring the influence of Christopher Lasch’s book on pop culture vernacular.

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                  Let me preface this by saying that when I tell you “stop being daft, dude,” I am not suggesting you cease to be a well-mannered city person who doesn’t know how things work around here.

                  So stop being daft, dude.

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            No, I’m just trying to convince people that using slurs is a bad idea because if you do, you’ll be subjected to “banal whinging” about how slurs are bad. Thread top could have avoided all this by not using a slur, and nothing bad would have happened.

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              It’s not a slur to call Trump anything you fucking want. Stop trying to police language. Punching up is ALWAYS acceptable. YOU brought up asexuality first. You’re the one with a problem.

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                So, if someone were to call Trump a

                Warning: hate speech

                removed ladyboy tranny autist r*tard orange-n****r

                , you would 100% agree with this move and applaud the person describing Trump with these words?

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                  I couldn’t give a flying fuck if some monster wants to call a worse monster bigoted nonsense. My world is so much bigger than the grumblings of morons.

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                    Well, as a gay and trans autistic person, I don’t think those words are appropriate to use in earnest in any context. Maybe you should try listening to minorities on the subject of slurs.